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	<title>Comments on: Germans wonder why Americans think of Bavaria when they think of Germany</title>
	<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/15/germans-wonder-why-americans-think-of-bavaria-when-they-think-of-germany/</link>
	<description>German Quirks from an American Perspective</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 01:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/15/germans-wonder-why-americans-think-of-bavaria-when-they-think-of-germany/#comment-78939</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm told a documentary has been produced - likely aired on Public TV - that does a very good job of depicting the difference between German and Bavarian cultures. Does anyone know how to access this documentary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m told a documentary has been produced - likely aired on Public TV - that does a very good job of depicting the difference between German and Bavarian cultures. Does anyone know how to access this documentary?</p>
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		<title>By: josephdietrich</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/15/germans-wonder-why-americans-think-of-bavaria-when-they-think-of-germany/#comment-50917</link>
		<dc:creator>josephdietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bayern as Texas. This is exactly how I describe it to folks when they ask about Bayern or Texas. Excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bayern as Texas. This is exactly how I describe it to folks when they ask about Bayern or Texas. Excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/15/germans-wonder-why-americans-think-of-bavaria-when-they-think-of-germany/#comment-26557</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 09:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, great blog!  

Being a native Texan and living in Germany, your blog really hit home.  I don't know how many times I've been asked "where are your boots and your Cowboy hat?" :-)

But after being in Germany for more than 20 years you tend to come up with your own stereotypes for both Germans and Americans e.g. white socks and tennis shoes (A) any type of sock and Birkenstocks (G).  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, great blog!  </p>
<p>Being a native Texan and living in Germany, your blog really hit home.  I don&#8217;t know how many times I&#8217;ve been asked &#8220;where are your boots and your Cowboy hat?&#8221; <img src='http://nothingforungood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But after being in Germany for more than 20 years you tend to come up with your own stereotypes for both Germans and Americans e.g. white socks and tennis shoes (A) any type of sock and Birkenstocks (G).  <img src='http://nothingforungood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Florian Blaschke</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/15/germans-wonder-why-americans-think-of-bavaria-when-they-think-of-germany/#comment-26185</link>
		<dc:creator>Florian Blaschke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, many Americans I've met online (who are generally very educated) have the same "obese redneck" stereotype about the average American (especially in the southeast) as we Germans are said to have, so it's not just us. And they tell us that the American education system does suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, many Americans I&#8217;ve met online (who are generally very educated) have the same &#8220;obese redneck&#8221; stereotype about the average American (especially in the southeast) as we Germans are said to have, so it&#8217;s not just us. And they tell us that the American education system does suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley Akers</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/15/germans-wonder-why-americans-think-of-bavaria-when-they-think-of-germany/#comment-25690</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradley Akers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I'm in Germany I'm always being quizzed by Germans about how much I know about Germany.  They seem genuinely disappointed when they learn that I follow German politics and entertainment closely.  I've been to every Bundesland (including Mallorca - humor just in case you missed it) and speak German nearly accent free.  Americans just aren't supposed to know about the world they tell me.   They all have stories about 'stupid Americans' who don't know a thing about the world.  After all, they all know about the USA.

The party is usually over when I ask them who the political leaders of China or India are.   Can you name any regions of India, the world's second most populated country?  What language is spoken in Indonesia?  I've yet to have a German accurately name a prefecture of Japan.   All of these nations are at least as significant as Germany on the global stage.  I guess the German concept of geography and general knowledge of the world ends with Europe and the USA.   

I like to end most of these exchanges with reminding them that Germany and the USA produce nearly identical scores on international education exams like the PISA Study or TIMSS.   Once Americans obtain a bachelor's degree they actually score significantly higher than German university graduates on the few exams given internationally to university graduates.  One is the UN's intern acceptance exam.  The results are online if you care to Google them.  

I spent a year in Germany as an exchange student in 1985 and can tell you that I too have a great store of ‘ignorant German’ anecdotes that I bring out at parties.  I guarantee you that Americans are certainly not any more ignorant than the average German student.    In fact, I’d say that once all the intelligent kids are separated into Gymnasium the remaining mass of kids is considerably less educated than the average American high school student.  In Germany it seems they don’t even make the pretense of teaching anything academic to anyone other than Gymnasium students. 

I live in Colorado.  We are the fittest state in the USA.  I run 5K daily and have never been fat.  I don't work with any fat people nor am I related to anyone who I'd even remotely call overweight.  I've eaten at a McDonald's only once in my life; at the Frankfurt Airport while my kids played in the smoke filled play area.   That I don't fit their American stereotype seems to bother many Germans I meet.   Perhaps the stereotype of Lederhosen and cowbells isn't as bad as it seems compared with what I have to deal with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I&#8217;m in Germany I&#8217;m always being quizzed by Germans about how much I know about Germany.  They seem genuinely disappointed when they learn that I follow German politics and entertainment closely.  I&#8217;ve been to every Bundesland (including Mallorca - humor just in case you missed it) and speak German nearly accent free.  Americans just aren&#8217;t supposed to know about the world they tell me.   They all have stories about &#8217;stupid Americans&#8217; who don&#8217;t know a thing about the world.  After all, they all know about the USA.</p>
<p>The party is usually over when I ask them who the political leaders of China or India are.   Can you name any regions of India, the world&#8217;s second most populated country?  What language is spoken in Indonesia?  I&#8217;ve yet to have a German accurately name a prefecture of Japan.   All of these nations are at least as significant as Germany on the global stage.  I guess the German concept of geography and general knowledge of the world ends with Europe and the USA.   </p>
<p>I like to end most of these exchanges with reminding them that Germany and the USA produce nearly identical scores on international education exams like the PISA Study or TIMSS.   Once Americans obtain a bachelor&#8217;s degree they actually score significantly higher than German university graduates on the few exams given internationally to university graduates.  One is the UN&#8217;s intern acceptance exam.  The results are online if you care to Google them.  </p>
<p>I spent a year in Germany as an exchange student in 1985 and can tell you that I too have a great store of ‘ignorant German’ anecdotes that I bring out at parties.  I guarantee you that Americans are certainly not any more ignorant than the average German student.    In fact, I’d say that once all the intelligent kids are separated into Gymnasium the remaining mass of kids is considerably less educated than the average American high school student.  In Germany it seems they don’t even make the pretense of teaching anything academic to anyone other than Gymnasium students. </p>
<p>I live in Colorado.  We are the fittest state in the USA.  I run 5K daily and have never been fat.  I don&#8217;t work with any fat people nor am I related to anyone who I&#8217;d even remotely call overweight.  I&#8217;ve eaten at a McDonald&#8217;s only once in my life; at the Frankfurt Airport while my kids played in the smoke filled play area.   That I don&#8217;t fit their American stereotype seems to bother many Germans I meet.   Perhaps the stereotype of Lederhosen and cowbells isn&#8217;t as bad as it seems compared with what I have to deal with.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/15/germans-wonder-why-americans-think-of-bavaria-when-they-think-of-germany/#comment-25653</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael:
That's such a Bavarian thing to say! 

Btw. many people who have the Bavarian citizenship (yes, Bavarians have a second citizenship besides the German citizenship!) don't consider themself Bavarians (e.g. Franken)

If you deduct those from the 12.5 millions, 10% might be pretty close to the real number</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael:<br />
That&#8217;s such a Bavarian thing to say! </p>
<p>Btw. many people who have the Bavarian citizenship (yes, Bavarians have a second citizenship besides the German citizenship!) don&#8217;t consider themself Bavarians (e.g. Franken)</p>
<p>If you deduct those from the 12.5 millions, 10% might be pretty close to the real number</p>
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		<title>By: Bird of Prey</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/15/germans-wonder-why-americans-think-of-bavaria-when-they-think-of-germany/#comment-25543</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird of Prey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ engel: Hmmm... Genuine oversight, or yet another self-deprecating joke implying that the average American can't even comprehend the concept of a man made edifice  being more than one or two hundred years old? :-D ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ engel: Hmmm&#8230; Genuine oversight, or yet another self-deprecating joke implying that the average American can&#8217;t even comprehend the concept of a man made edifice  being more than one or two hundred years old? <img src='http://nothingforungood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> <img src='http://nothingforungood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: engel</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/15/germans-wonder-why-americans-think-of-bavaria-when-they-think-of-germany/#comment-25436</link>
		<dc:creator>engel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi john,
I love your blog! soooo funny!
could you please change "In Munich we can see buildings that are nearly 60 years old." to "In Munich we can see buildings that are nearly 650 years old."

Peterskirche (build 1368)

Let me google that for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter%27s_Church,_M%C3%BCnchen

keep on writing ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi john,<br />
I love your blog! soooo funny!<br />
could you please change &#8220;In Munich we can see buildings that are nearly 60 years old.&#8221; to &#8220;In Munich we can see buildings that are nearly 650 years old.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peterskirche (build 1368)</p>
<p>Let me google that for you:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter%27s_Church,_M%C3%BCnchen" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter%27s_Church,_M%C3%BCnchen</a></p>
<p>keep on writing <img src='http://nothingforungood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/15/germans-wonder-why-americans-think-of-bavaria-when-they-think-of-germany/#comment-22942</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a Bavarian and I was also  wondering.

Population of Germany: 82millions
Population of Bavaria:12millions

And you wanna tell me that 12millions are 10% of 82millions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Bavarian and I was also  wondering.</p>
<p>Population of Germany: 82millions<br />
Population of Bavaria:12millions</p>
<p>And you wanna tell me that 12millions are 10% of 82millions!</p>
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		<title>By: Bird of Prey</title>
		<link>http://nothingforungood.com/2008/05/15/germans-wonder-why-americans-think-of-bavaria-when-they-think-of-germany/#comment-22888</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird of Prey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Regarding Dirndls, every region in Germany has “Trachten” and the womens dresses all resemble Dirndles."

I have always wondered what can be considered the Tracht of my home region, the Ruhr area. Perhaps the traditional outfits of the miners?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Regarding Dirndls, every region in Germany has “Trachten” and the womens dresses all resemble Dirndles.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have always wondered what can be considered the Tracht of my home region, the Ruhr area. Perhaps the traditional outfits of the miners?</p>
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